Leaked chat logs reveal Andrew Tate's human trafficking operation
The PHD room is a special inner channel where A.T. shows his methodology.
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ANDREW TATE’S PHD room is a special Telegram channel, inside his war room, where he teaches his followers how to groom women into the camgirl business. It’s a practice that he has largely avoided talking about since giving interviews while in house arrest.
In part 1 of this series we reviewed the initial controversy in April 2022 and outlined the surface-level details of Andrew Tate’s webcam operation. We learned about how A.T. doesn’t let girls leave the house and how he considered it a job to make women fall in love with him in order to profit off their labor.
Part 2 explored more about the case. As the brothers weren’t the only ones arrested. Two female lieutenants of the operation were also nabbed by authorities: Luana Radu (who served as like a chief enforcer) and Georgiana Naghel (who served as Andrew’s personal assistant.
I uncovered how hardcore the devotion of war room members were to Tate’s cause. I outlined how Andrew Tate intimidated targets like Coltybrah on social media: using his followers as a personal army. I established how A.T. had hundreds of accounts at his disposal to push pro-Tate propaganda. Inner circle members like Bobby Dino hinted that things were as bad as they looked, and disavowed Andrew’s actions before vanishing from social media.
Meanwhile, characters like Tommy Robinson and Paul Joseph Watson defended the brothers.
Most importantly, part 2 has videos from both Andrew Tate and Tristan in which they deeper describe their tactics of grooming women to fall in love with him. Tristan says on camera that he forbade his webcam girls from getting outside sources of money.
Part 3 helped solidify what was known in the first two parts. It was made possible because for whatever reason Twitter reinstated Andrew Tate’s ban evasion account at @OfWudan.
Andrew Tate’s webcam operation was made readily apparent. We also saw the COVID pandemic reignited Tate’s dependency on camgirls. His stable of ladies was on full display. Working for him. Counting his money.
He talks about how he skirts the law and breaks rules wherever he sees fit. He openly broke local traffic laws without worry as his connections within Romanian law enforcement were always there to bail him out.
But most importantly, A.T.'s @OfWudan account showed us Andrew genuinely believed the things he espoused elsewhere online. It wasn't an act.
Tate also brags about how he and his brother consider themselves part of the mafia. Which is shown to be beyond hyperbole because the Twitter account posted evidence about how Andrew courted mafia partners for his casino operations in Romania.
At the end of Part 3 I previewed Andrew Tate’s war room. The place where he taught others the tricks of his trade.
For that….
I was deplatformed by Andrew Tate fans months ago for publicly revealing that I had any war room leaks in my possession. Since that time, I’ve been working on a project with the mainstream media that explores Andrew Tate’s secret cabal in extensive detail.
History repeated itself in the case of @crayonmurders. He was briefly silenced from Twitter after posting screenshots from this latest round of leaks. Thankfully, Twitter reinstated him. However I’m still trapped in purgatory. Please tell Elon Musk to reinstate me thanks.
What you’re about to read was entirely glossed over by the likes of Tucker Carlson. He spent two-and-half hours interviewing Andrew Tate and yet couldn’t bother bringing up tough questions that were at least somewhat relevant to the investigation.
When speaking to the Rolling Stone on the initial leaks: A.T.’s representatives claimed that artificial intelligence was somehow now advanced enough to fabricate something this sophisticated.
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Andrew/Tristan
Obviously the Tate brothers make their appearances throughout the entire chatlogs collection. But here are some standout moments that centered around them, as opposed to their involvement in conversations with other members.
(27 May 2021) Tristan Tate tells the PHD room that he doled out "financial penalties" against his camgirls on a regular basis. Meanwhile, a war room member tries to discern the psychological profile of a girl he's seeing, asking Iggy if she's a suitable candidate for webcam work.
(29 May 2021) Tristan reveals to the PHD room that he regularly reflects on his harem of girls. He asks himself if they bring more to the table, beyond sexual gratification. Although sex is the hook the Tate brothers use to recruit new camgirls, it apparently takes longer for the brothers to decide the worth of the women they lure in.
(31 May 2021) Tristan reminds the group that he loves seeing photos from other members about the PHD-related work they've been doing. One member obliges with the request, posting a woman in a thong with a webcam setup visible in the background.
Andrew says he's away from Romania at the moment. But that doesn't stop him from working on cultivating the relationships in his harem. Within the conversation attached we see an unidentified woman who is apparently in charge of finding and "teaching" new girls. We're also witness to a barrage of messages from her where she states her complete and utter commitment to Andrew Tate.
To name a few: "I love you so fucking much you don't even know." "My life would have 0 meaning and purpose without you in it." "I love how much how control you have over me." "Cover my body and bruises and my face with tears."
A.T. says that he steps up his texting game while away for long periods of time so he can retain the loyalty of his "stable of hoes." Oftentimes this means Andrew baits women with statements about the status of relationships, and ignores responding for long periods of time, so the girls in these conversations continue to question what he means when he says stuff like that.
(3 June 2021) A PHD member gets a journal as a gift from a girl. This person asks how they can take advantage of this gift in a way that maximizes "PHD" related returns. He suggests he'll make the girl do writing assignments in order to further the girl's commitment to him. Andrew Tate replies that that was a great idea and he might do that thing, himself. “Excellent for her to self hypnotise.”
Andrew explains that one of his tactics is to keep women confused all the time as a control technique.
When it comes to having sex with some girl from the "Fresh and Fit" podcast, A.T. lays out the various options going forward with them. "Tell her to move to Europe and live with me and be mine and leave all her life and friends" is really the only option that Andrew lists, where he gains a long-term benefit out of the girl in question. But even he acknowledges the possibility the chick in question might not buy into it.
(4 June 2021) A.T. carves out Vivian as an exception to the PHD social foreplay routine he conducts when away on business.
In this conversation that takes place in June 2021, A.T. says he had been with Vivian for eight years by that point. When the discussion turns to how things work at long-distance, he says that the circumstances help women foster a longing for him. Then, when it's time for Andrew to come back home, he creates circumstances that largely demand the women to actively make clear they want to see A.T.
(10 June 2021) Jonathan MoneyPilot shares a graphic image of a naked woman on a bed. Her ass is facing the camera. It’s a deep shade of pink-to-red with countless scars and bruises across the skin.
The woman has a tattoo saying “fuck it” on her lower backside. This is what A.T. notices and responds to, sharing a picture of how Vivian has Tate’s name tattooed on her hip.
(11 June 2021) A.T. tells the group that he wrangled another female for the PHD test. This lady in particular seems to have a significant Instagram following, yet Andrew seems sure he'd be capable of making her a camgirl anyway.
(12 June 2021) Tristan names Stirling Cooper and Justin Waller as collaborators for his OnlyFans management project. That being, essentially, using the PHD method to hook an OnlyFans girl with over one million followers. Tristan intended to make her a middle manager of the business so she can recruit new talent.
"But... I have 6 OF girls just started, fresh twitters and new accounts. I'm going to fuck this girl so hard she becomes my promoter, blowing up all my girls accounts plus pushing the name of my agency out there for recruitment reasons."
Other PHD group members express their awe at Tristan’s so-called brilliance.
(13 June 2021) Andrew Tate brags that he bagged another girl with the PHD test, and he was working on grooming her into his OnlyFans rotation. (He says in a later message that he got her to agree to do it).
(16 June 2021) A.T. shares the kinds of conversations he has with his insurance underwriter in order to make a broader point about how he interacts with females. "I literally aim to PhD any single female I interact with" and "every single female I need loves me" being key quotes of this segment.
Andrew Tate instructs the war room that it's ok to blur the lines between sex and love, as long as the power dynamic between man and woman is maintained in a fashion preferable for the guy.
"You're trying to make her fall completely in love with you and obey every word. She won't do that without a dream of forever.”
If a foundation of the PHD program could be summarized in a few sentences? The above quote suffices at capturing the basis of it all.
(18 June 2021) A.T. shows another gal that he had in his rotation. He hadn’t seen her in nearly three months, but still had her wrapped around his finger.
(19 June 2021) The text exchange says Andrew Tate had sex with Beatrice when a third person was in the room. He practices the advice he gave the PHD room by being controlling in what he says to this particular woman:
"Part of me [legitimately] hates you. This isn't a joke. Every time you've ever even slightly heistated on my command I've remembered it all. I won't love you properly for years."
Andrew rounds it off by demanding the girl debase herself. In her best attempt at doing so, she calls A.T. a king and a god, and begs to be his slave.
Andrew offers choices from his literal stable of women to another girl he's talking to. A.T. proposes the girl get her pussy eaten out by one of his regulars. We're shown at least four different women. The chick who is talking to Andrew, however, is indecisive.
(26 June 2021) Tristan shares news that his OnlyFans management venture has made big waves. He says it's a collaborative effort involving another war room member. He credits the success of the whole thing based on his treatment of women. "I am on good terms with most girls I have ever fucked, the numbers in my agency are swelling almost as fast as we can do the work."
(30 June 2021) Andrew Tate says any girl has to benefit a guy beyond sex. That's where he gets his idea of relationships being a financial transaction from. Girls make him money on webcam, and in return A.T. gives them the attention they crave.
Andrew Tate invites the PHD room to partake in his habit of practicing self-aggrandizement. By that he means suggesting PHD members act more mysterious when it comes to their business work, for the sake of adding tension.
The climax:
"cum all over her face when you get in and throw some money for her to count"
What Andrew Tate is discussing feeds back into his general rhetoric claiming men need to manufacture drama in order to keep relationships with women interesting.
A.T. says it's all about framing. There's a huge difference between offering a girl webcam work for the sake of making millions of dollarydoos, versus introducing it as a means of simply paying bills. Andrew stresses it’s all about showmanship.
"WE will only have HUGE CHANCES at CONQUERING THE WORLD if YOU OBEY me"
From that, we have the baseline for how A.T. sees all of his relationships with women.
The centerpiece of these PHD chat log leaks is we get a first-hand look at how Andrew Tate coaxed a camgirl into working for him. He uses lies and deception in order to break down the woman's previous beliefs, in order to force his own agenda onto her.
Jasmine
Jasmina Valentina is one of the original six victims involved in the Tate brothers case in Romania. She even claimed the following chat logs are somehow fake.
REVIEW: "1) stops her asking me on the phone. Why why why why"
(3 June 2021) We first learn that A.T. had Jasmina move seven hours away from home to be with Andrew and his harem in Romania. She said no to the idea at first of moving in with a group of women who were working for him. A.T. cut off attention until she complied. In these initial conversations we get a baseline of how Jasmina talks to Andrew. She thinks that what she had with A.T. was uniquely special.
But behind the scenes we're shown how Andrew is manipulating the situation, as Jasmina is first moving in. Quotes like these from Andrew reveal how he was leading her on from the get-go. "I don't trust her alone." "She's very dumb." "I see her once in my life." "But will be good on camera."
Such a deceptive setup being standard practice for the PHD room. Making a girl fall in love with you, and then enlisting them as camgirls after the fact. He only saw these women once or twice. A.T. doesn't care if they leave because he can replace them. But in the meantime they're his playthings in what he describes like a game of chess.
Andrew Tate tells the group that he needs to shack up Jasmina with Beatrice so B. could snitch on J. when necessary. His stated strategy is that the "solidly pimped" Beatrice could serve as the gateway to integrate Jasmina into A.T.'s camgirl harem. "Isolate the new target. Send her to new friends."
(4 June 2021) Andrew says Jasmine and Beatrice seemed to be getting along since moving together. Of course that didn't mean he'd ever let his guard down on the situation, though. He told the PHD group it's a process that gets fine tuned over time. If someone wanted an example of Andrew Tate's attentiveness towards the camgirls, this would be one of those times.
Jasmina and Beatrice hanging out together. I’d embed the video posted by A.T., but it’s only Jasmina slightly shaking her head up and down. You can look at the thumbnail and get the idea.
A.T. further confirms that the two are living together as he planned.
We can see the two girls hanging together in a video posted by him.
(8 June 2021) Andrew Tate tells the group that he was able to replace Jasmina's old social circles at home with ones of his own at his mansion. He decided to "tighten the screw" by making Jasmina freak out over a lie that Jasmina worked in a sex club. A.T. says the aim of it was to manipulate her into submission, making sure Jasmina didn't go anywhere without him.
(10 June 2021) A.T. says he tried to get Jasmina to send a picture of herself. We’re led to assume it was meant to be more of a naughty picture because she responds with the following:
“1. I have never sent a picture of me in lingerie ever, I made a promise to god and myself and I will keep it. 2. I will never do video chat or only fans because my body is intimate and only my husband should be able to touch and see. 3. If I give you my love I’m expecting the same thing back. 4. The man I love should not hit or beat me up.”
Andrew polls the PHD room if he'll be able to convert Jasmina into a working camgirl. He sees her belief in God as a challenge.
Andrew reveals he plans to use Georgiana as a middleperson to get Jasmina to agree to do camwork. He adds that J.'s friends have warned her that A.T. only wanted her so that he could make her into a camgirl, so he needed to be more sneaky about grooming into the lifestyle.
Andrew turns his grooming of Jasmina into a teachable lesson for the PHD room. Tristan stresses to the group of the importance of being a wingman, even if it's from a huge distance away. A.T. quizzes everyone on the best time of day to message girls. Then he admits he's going to try and rush the PHD process along with Jasmina at a faster pace than usually done.
Andrew Tate questions how committed Jasmina really was with her belief in religion and God.
Andrew Tate controls women via his wallet.
"She can't go home," Andrew tells the group. "She can't leave the house."
“Man. I almost sound evil," Andrew says in a moment of almost self-reflection. But he shrugs it off by calling himself a shepherd. Andrew convinces himself that he could offer Jasmina a better life than the one she had at home.
(Still 10 June 2021) Andrew notes that he got Jasmina to promise she'd never leave. A.T. tells everyone the next step of his operation is to introduce Georgiana as a middlewoman. As the "bottom bitch," she can convince Jasmina to become a camgirl while Andrew wouldn't have to get his hands dirty. "Giving her no negotiating room. It's comply or goodbye[.] If there's no goodbye... there is only comply."
This is also a good opportunity to point out that Andrew Tate has denied Georgiana's involvement in his webcam business. But here in the chat logs, he tells the truth: "She types and runs the girls. G is a bottom bitch in this game."
Meanwhile, Andrew Tate makes Jasmina more dependent on his cash. "I'm [gonna] take care of you because I don't want you thinking I moved you to Bucharest for only fans or cam," Andrew lies. He sets up Georgiana as if she was the one who wanted the webcam work in the first place.
A.T. adds that he had plans in place to further manipulate Jasmina if necessary. If she were to further ask him for money, he’d softly introduce webcam work to her. He lays out specific framing to lead Jasmina into believing it’d be a 50 - 50 effort where she’d think Andrew still specifically cared about her and that she wasn’t just another cog in the wheel of his business plans.
Andrew Tate makes it explicit for the war room, which in retrospect makes him more culpible given his current denials. "Remember. It's G who wants her to cam. Not me," A.T. says as he orchestrates the narrative to push Jasmina into webcam work.
Andrew knows what he's doing when it comes to making his targets panic. He wants to paint Jasmina into the corner of making her have to deny she's any kind of so-called gold digger. "We're going to be travelling the world together. I'm working from my phone. We're a team you're [gonna] listen to me and work from your phone too."
The fake conversation initiated by Andrew Tate where he has Georgiana make it look like as if she was the one who wanted Jasmina to get into cam in the first place.
Andrew shows the fake conversation and him feeding it to Jasmina. He tells the PHD room that he usually had Vivian play the role that Georgiana was now doing. A.T. points out “don’t tell her I showed you this” as a manipulative so-called trust line.
Jasmina says “I don’t know what to say. I’ve never done anything like this before.” Andrew Tate calls that line a trap attempting to trick him into getting his hands dirty with involvement in the camgirl grooming process.
At this point in the grooming process, Andrew has managed to frame it as if working as a camgirl for him is the best option. Jasmina is already in Romania, after all! That's psychological leverage in of itself. A.T. pushes the situation more from there by asserting camgirl work would be an act of commitment from Jasmina. It'd show she was serious about the relationship.
Andrew Tate completes the PHD process and seals the deal. After only a few short weeks he managed to get Jasmina to abandon her religious principles in order to become an OnlyFans camgirl. Georgiana is officially declared to be Jasmina's manager as Andrew doesn't want to her J. complaining to him about work.
Andrew Tate claims victory over Jasmina’s mind.
"She never believed in god. Women never believe in anything. Women are programmed. Just have to replace the programming."
We then see Jasmina finally sent potential OnlyFans pictures to A.T. for review. “I’ve done this with over 100 girls. I’ve seen it all,” Andrew told the PHD group.
(14 June 2021) Andrew demands Georgiana that Jasmine show some OnlyFans pics. Geo responds by telling A.T. it looks like Jasmina is a thief stealing from people's wallets. A.T. tells the war room how much work is involved in managing a camgirl harem and that it's important to "pick your battles" whenever there's fighting.
Steven H. de Bruijn
(3 June 2021) The chick that Steven de Bruijn was seeing at the time had received news that the girl's mom was going to kick her out. The situation presented as like an ultimatum for the relationship as well, as Steve saw opportunity to bring up the "webcam question," or in this case proposing the lady do OnlyFans.
When asked what he cares most about: Steven says his priority is getting money. He was open to the idea of dumping this girl and moving on to try again with other women.
(5 June 2021) Steve introduces a new girl to the gang. He and the immediate reaction of a few other PHD room members was that the woman was beautiful. Yet the fact this girl had a two-year-old son comes out as too much of a downside for any long-term prospects.
As explained:
"Can't be the #1 person in her life if she has kids. Need to be #1 person if you're gonna put her on Cam/OF."
Iggy states that Steven de Bruijn would never be more important than the lady's son, so he shouldn't bother with a relationship in the first place.
(7 June 2021) Steven ain't a quitter though. He shares his attempts at wooing a 19-year-old named Irina, explaining the various means of how he was implementing Andrew Tate's magic PHD formula into conversations.
(8 June 2021) Steven figures out that paying for Tinder's platinum program is an easy way to accelerate matching with particular females on the platform. He expresses his interest in the "God Mode" package if it has the ability to up his Tinder hookup game.
(25 June 2021) Steven shares how a “young and relatively inexperienced” girl still managed to realize Mr. Bruijn had other potential motives:
“At one point she literally asks me ‘are you planning to pimp me?’ so I’m like ‘no 👀’ and deflect to another topic. It wasn’t an awkward moment, but I thought to myself this girl is SMART. I suppose if I ever bring up the subject of OF/Cam in the future I can always say that pimping to means prostitution and what we’re going to do is more like [insert the best way to frame that].”
At another point in that exchange, the two apparently talked about marriage.
Joseph Liverman
(2 June 2021) Joseph Liverman reports that he caught a lead with high potential in passing the PHD gauntlet of approval. He already banged this chick and she "expressed interest" in starting up an OnlyFans. But Liverman needed help from the PHD room on taking the next steps. In this case, he specifically wanted to know how long to leave her on read and control the flow of attention.
Iggy Semmelweis gives Liverman the advice of waiting four to five days between dates. We also learn more about the girl’s past: her ex had put her on OnlyFans already by posting videos without her consent.
“She said her ex was making $10k/month on only fans with videos he recorded of her without her consent (which have now been taken down), so I'd assume I could do 5x better than this nerd, since I have a business and know how to scale it, and can apply the same principles to OF.”
Nonetheless, Joseph was worried about how much time a day it’d take to be this girl’s manager.
(15 June 2021) Joseph's girl seemed ready and willing to start up an OnlyFans.
"i've been used for my body so many times i may as well make money off of it😍"
They only went on a few dates so far. However it was enough time for Liverman to signal to this girl that the best way to win his affection was "acts of service." The PHD test involves challenging a prospective camgirl's limits and seeing how obedient she's willing to be.
(20 June 2021) A problem in Joseph’s eyes arose when he saw his girl post a risqué image with another male “friend” on OnlyFans. Liverman asked the group how best to do it with this girl who was growing more attracted toward him. Specifically he wanted to know at what point in the relationship it becomes okay to start isolating her from other males.
(22 June 2021) Liverman divulges that he completed the PHD process by having a girlfriend who is also a camgirl. The woman in question relinquished control of her phone password and OnlyFans account to Joseph. Joseph's girl would also be trying to recruit others to join them to make cam content.
Liverman's ex-girlfriend wanted a cut of the action. He claimed to be both pleasantly surprised, but also a bit overwhelmed at how his PIMP career was taking off so fast. Joseph asked the chatroom for tips on how to move forward in the best "PHD" way possible.
Iggy replied by saying the "GOD MODE" room was the place that discussed how to juggle multiple women.
(24 June 2021) Liverman shows proof via his girl's booty, confirming that his whole story wasn't a lie. We learn that OnlyFans wasn't going to be their only venue, as they'd be signing up for StripChat.
Jonathan Money Pilot
(26 May 2021) MoneyPilot has this one camgirl that he unilaterally blocked on all forms of social media. Yet somehow this particular lady was still camming for him and sending him money. Someone asks why he blocked her in the first place. Jonathan replies that "she was given explicit instructions and neglected to follow them. Still hasn't in fact."
As a reminder: the PHD room is a place for relationship advice. Situations like this one are praised as fantastic.
(12 June 2021) MoneyPilot says: "I left my main crying in a restaurant a day before she left on work for a month. Some idiots paid our bill cause they felt bad for her.” He shrugs it off by asserting girls live for drama. All you got to do is promise amazing adventures and mystery in store for the future of the relationship. If you do that, everything else magically works out fine.
(13 June 2021) When the term "spell casting" comes up in war room/PHD room discussions, it refers to the specific subliminal intentions that members try to add into their relationships. Their motivation being: if you want a girl to act in a specific way, there's a process to introduce it slowly over time.
Below, the text exchange MoneyPilot involves kink at the surface. But we’re talking about a group of people who use neural linguistic programing, so Jonathan tells the gang to analyze the conservation deeper.
MoneyPilot brings out the PHD tool of assigning girls tasks. He wants her to join him with a friend the next time he's in Vegas, for business purposes. Jonathan adds the hook of promising some kind of reward if the girl does what he wants.
(24 June 2021) Jonathan tells the PHD room about his dedication toward BDSM fetishes in the bedroom. He gives an example of what the conversation looks like with one of the girls involved living out that sexual fantasy with him.
“You get weak in [the] knees when I grip your throat,” MoneyPilot says to the lass.
(25 June 2021) MoneyPilot shares a successful round of the "three questions" pickup game when talking to a girl. The girl seems to be into the idea of having to wear a collar.
Jonathan shares another conversation. He seemed to be on a lucky streak as far as women picking up on his advances. Even though this chick comes off as soon when talking about cooking, MoneyPilot reminds the chatroom that he still has his guard up. "Nothing matters until after she passes PHD."
(26 June 2021) "WarRoomGuide" says A.T.'s main technique of keeping women on alert is by being the more dramatic one in his litany of relationships. MoneyPilot agrees and replies that he creates drama for no reason whatsoever. “It’s only immature when you’re emotionally involved” in the drama, according to PHD room member Steven de Brujin.
AYO
I thought this AYO character was worth bringing up because he appeared to closely emulate the original mannerisms of Iggy Semmelweis in how they talked to the war room. These chat logs are dated for 2021, which means the war room had been around for a few years at this point. More than enough time for people to fully absorb the ideology of Andrew Tate and his cohorts.
Best to read it for yourself. I’ll add that the inclusion of the dragon emoji is because that’s what war room people use as shorthand for the various women they pursue. They call the process “chasing the dragon.”
(24 May 2021) A PHD member says his girl tried to get sassy with him in a voice note. But he didn't take the bait. AYO chimes in to say that this was the best possible outcome because now the lady in question knows what gets the guy's attention.
AYO later makes a comparison to training dogs when it comes to the PHD method of training women. It's not the first time that the war room has done so, either.
(5 June 2021) Again, AYO really gets into the whole hype of the PHD process. In these lengthy posts he implies that a woman is running some kind of meta game of being the dominant one in a relationship, because the guy who brought her up in the PHD room called her beautiful.
AYO says "A WOMAN IS CUCKING YOU" at the end of his bout of overanalyzing.
(7 June 2021) AYO expresses the belief that it's good and proper for Andrew Tate's war room to be a cult.
"We should all be 'cult-like.' The people in your life should have astounding faith in you and be in your cult. Tate is so overwhelming Men and Women are wrapped under the spell of his influence. And Follow Him. His cult is monumental. The people in your life should like they're in your cult."
Both Iggy and Andrew Tate applaud AYO for having these thoughts.
(25 June 2021) Naturally, AYO practices what he preaches when it comes to PHD pickup artist techniques.
Even in the sample size of this PHD chat log pile I was given, there were other miscellaneous members who joined conversations and showed how committed they were to Tate's PHD program.
Other/One-off Examples
(31 May 2021) PHD member "Kilo" expresses his gratitude that the group led him to figuring out a successful BDSM setup.
(2 June 2021) Conrad's situation is remarkable. He got a girl to pay him money so that she'd unblock him.
(2 June 2021) A PHD member named Matt San shares how one of his main girl sent a "surprise gift" to his place in Brazil. He adds that he set forth some kind of challenge to the "4 girls [he] had in his rotation," where he wanted the women to keep in constant contact with him when he was away on business.
(4 June 2021) PHD group member pitted his two girls against each other once the jig was up and they found out about one another. PHD member knew how to manipulate the situation to make himself play the victim. "Girl 1" eventually cooled down, and PHD guy says he was going to pitch webcam work to her ASAP.
That same day, Jiyan shares his successful wooing of a bisexual girl who previously did things on PornHub.
"This is very big for me as its my first phD test pass. Prior to the war room when I joined February last year. I had no dates or dating experiencing. never had a instagram or been on a dating app. In last week alone I doubled my dates that I have ever went on [.]"
BDSM is mentioned as a bonus, again, in this case.
(5 June 2021) Justin Waller shows his conversation with a chick named Alesia. Whatever argument Waller was having with this girl, he managed to frame the situation in a way that asserted dominance. Andrew tells Justin to call her a whore while he came in her.
(11 June 2021) PHD member named Sylvester says he has been assigning tasks to his webcam girl in order to make her feel busy. Syl and his girl met up with another PHD member and their girlfriend, so Syl thought that was a good opportunity to inspire his girl to stay in the cam game.
(21 June 2021) A PHD member named Jiyan told the group about he managed to wrangle a girl into submission after the pair had a conflict.
Pay attention when he says:
"Now when arguments come up I see them as opportunities for me to advance my agenda. In this case with her. Getting her on cam and having her bring me other girls. As long as you have the Iron Mind. You can endure and THRIVE in any drama environment."
What we have is a carbon copy of Andrew Tate’s mindset, with Iggy there to encourage that thinking.
William
(24 May 2021) William posts about how he gets tail by placing into the spooky mystic archetype. Allegedly it made one girl want to strip her clothes off.
(25 May 2021) The gimmick doesn't work all the time. William even says it's horseshit. Yet the entertainment value brought enough in return for him to keeping on it.
(30 May 2021) William says he scored a PHD victory bringing in the kind of girl who voluntarily wants to go along with it all. He even says she brought up getting to cam work herself, first. Then apparently another lass got involved in the equation. It turns into a discussion about women see attention like its catnip.
Dan
(14 June 2021) A fella named Dan tells the war room he picked up a set of girls from a sugar daddy website, at some point last year, for the purpose of enlisting them to OnlyFans.
Again the quotes tell the story:
"As I sold her cam before first smash making this a money transaction first, is it possible to find out if she's a good girl by getting her to buy me coffee only or will I have to get her to do more. Like give me all her money or isolate her from her friends, before I can confirm she has passed the PHD test?”
Very normal relationship stuff going on here!
(27 June 2021) Dan tells the PHD room he's 35 years old, and reports that recent Tinder magic has gotten him matches ten to fifteen years younger than him. Unfortunately for him, girls question whether or not Dan is a pimp because of his Tinder bio.
James
(21 June 2021) PHD room member James shares with the group that he finally got his girl to buckle into a life of servitude. The lady in question writes him a check for $5000 dollarydoos, calling it "his" money.
(27 June 2021) James got the girl to buckle completely. When it came to her waiting on him hand-and-foot, the lass fell for the PHD technique of submissiveness.
Tim
(24 May 2021) A PHD room member named Tim is seen trying his hand at the PHD game. He's fascinated by how far along his banter was getting him.
He ends up posting a word-for-word copy of what Iggy suggests in order to seduce some girl named Alvina. Based on the contents of the conversation, it's a pitch for her to get involved in the camgirl business.
(27 June 2021) Tim asks the PHD group for further advice when talking to a girl. Jon MoneyPilot recommends convincing the girl to send a photo of herself so Tim could upload it to her contact listing on his phone.
Joe
(27 May 2021) Iggy Semmelweis informs PHD room member "Joe" that webcam talk is best left for the war room subchannel dedicated toward that subject. This is the PHD room, where the relationships cultivated with women is the focus of discussion.
… also we learn that Joe has a camgirl who works 3 to 6 hours a day, 6 days a week.
(10 June 2021) Joe gravitates towards advice given out by Iggy when it comes to the "chase cycle" with women. According to Iggy everything with women is an intentional test: men apparently need to see how far girls are willing to submit themselves within the relationship.
(11 June 2021) Joe asks the PHD room for advice because his "main" camgirl he has used for a year-and-a-half seems to be complaining too much for his liking.
I’ll let the manipulation speak for itself in the following quote:
“Im annoyed because i feel that she should always cancel on her friends and jump at spending time with me and doing cam more than her plans that she already made.”
The girl says this dynamic is unfair in the texts shared. Alas, this type of thinking in Andrew Tate’s war room is actively encouraged.
Joe adds that the girl in question has a full-time job and cams at night for him. But we also learn that he has a new girl waiting in the wings, who passed the PHD test, who is set to replace her. Members of the PHD chat recommend that Joe dump the first girl because it appears as if she wouldn't be completely obedient on command.
Conclusion
Andrew Tate’s PHD course blurs the lines of relationship advice and degeneracy. The amount of meticulous thinking and planning that the group members display is oftentimes unhealthy. We can clearly claim in the big picture that the PHD scheme is unnatural, as Andrew Tate originally designed it with having women becoming camgirls in mind. This concealed financial motive, where webcam work is introduced only after a guy and gal have sex, creates the act of deception that the brothers are currently charged and facing trial for.