Crab Man's Tate Brothers Threads Part I
(Which actually covers the initial April 2022 thread @crabcrawler1 made)
Before I begin: reminder! I was banned from Twitter on faulty grounds. Please spring me from this prison, thanks.
Anyway I can adapt in the meantime. Even though I’ve been suspended from Twitter, I still have access to a majority of my research on the subject of the Tate brothers. What follows is basically a one-to-one recreation of that.
I have added other notes throughout and cleaned things up to make it more Substack friendly. Hopefully.
Context: This thread took place before Andrew Tate’s rise on TikTok in Summer 2022 + the deplatforming that happened to him around that time + the arrest of the Tate brothers in December 2022.
Everything after this sentence is from my original April 2022 thread.
Andrew Tate being accused of holding girls captive in his house is not going to be talked about in right-wing circles :^) "Judicial sources revealed [...] four girls were discovered, including three Romanian women and one from the USA."
I mean: is this girl with "TATE" tattooed on her body fabricated? Looks pretty real to me.
For now? I'm going to rip the band-aid off and link to this VERY DIFFICULT to digest thread about Andrew Tate. It's difficult in two ways: 1.) the story in of itself. 2.) the disappointment of seeing people I know wine and dine with Tate.
Here's another (translated) article about how Romanian police raided Andrew Tate's residence. Authorities "ordered the extension of the criminal investigation under the aspect of committing the crimes of human trafficking and rape."
"Who is he?"
Andrew Tate is a very sensitive subject for some. 1. Some people knew shit and went along with it. 2. Other people need to explain themselves at the very least.
Let me stress: I'm happy to assume some people who associated with Andrew Tate didn't know about his Romanian camgirl business, that has now since turned into hostage scandal. People like Lord Miles got $$ from Tate. HOWEVER, he seems like a great dude and completely innocent.
(Note: I hope they find Lord Miles because he is reportedly lost somewhere in the Middle East. It’s worrying that he essentially vanished off the grid and hasn’t spoken to anyone in quite some time.)
Time for a debunk: People have said some WEIRD (inaccurate) shit about Mikhaila Peterson being "involved" with Andrew Tate. Ms. Peterson addressed the extent of their interactions years ago. She took one look at Tate and said "I'm not gonna do business with him." Myth busted.
When I talked about Jack Murphy in January (?), Andrew Tate contacted me to talk shit about Jack Murphy. The two used to be friends or something, but when Jack Murphy had his controversy? Tate was happy to stab him in the back. That's why I'm talking about this, really.
But yes. The disgraced Jack Murphy publicly endorsed the *sexual market place* wisdom of Andrew Tate. Given that Andrew Tate is accused of holding women against their will, I think Jack Murphy needs to do more confessing to Jesus about sins. CALL IT A HUNCH.
"Sexual market place" WHAT COULD IT MEAN? I wonder.
^ "Why are people asking Mike Cernovich about Andrew Tate?" Because Mike Cernovich took a trip to Andrew Tate's Romanian sex den in September 2019. But he didn't take his wife. Dude went alone on purpose. Probably for peaceful meditation and definitely NOT sex, of course.
REMINDER: Here's a video of Andrew Tate beating a woman up for sexual pleasure. Mike Cernovich and Jack Murphy saw this and were like "oh my god. this is perfect. gold standard!"
(Note 1: I’d later come to find out that the lady here was Vivian/Irina. In the immediate: this was the video that got Tate kicked off of the Big Brother TV show. Vivian/Irina came out and said it was consensual. As in: not a victim. But the opposite of victim is accomplice. Vivian/Irina is Andrew Tate’s longtime actual girlfriend who helped him start up his camgirl business in Romania. Vivian’s role as “bottom bitch” which meant she helped groom girls into becoming Andrew’s employees.)
For fucks sake it seriously just turns into domestic violence at some point. (Note 2: this is a completely different girl from the previous video. There has been no follow-up on this particular case to debunk the notion that she’s not a victim.)
Let me strongly say: what you see is ONLY the shit that was filmed. There are things far beyond this that were not filmed.
"Who is Andrew Tate?" He has a website, ya know.
If you were paying attention for the last three years (2019 and earlier): people have been warning cam girls and models about Andrew Tate. The difference now is that he finally got caught. Like a grooming gang -- Tate used seduction to entice girls to work for him in Romania.
Read about how Andrew Tate got PISSED that someone leaked a video of him whipping one of his escorts. .... Apparently Tate fucked regularly on Skype and uploaded it to the world.
Anyway to get back on track. Andrew Tate, Candace Owens, and Paul Joseph Watson.
Note.
JOIN ANDREW TATE'S WAR ROOM --> FOR $6000 DOLLARYDOOOOS, YOU TOO CAN BECOME GOD.... and be a glorified white knight defending Tate's honor whenever he begs you to do so :^)
In this 2021 interview Andrew Tate explained how he saw his multiple girlfriends as "assets" (property) to start a camgirl business with.
"#TristanTate on Telegram talking about how he swindles lonely men out of money." -- via https://twitter.com/UltraChad9000/
About an hour into this video, Andrew Tate explains how Romania is corrupt and how easy it was to buy various politicians off.
In the same interview Andrew Tate says he believes "women are sheep" and programmable. He explains how he psychologically kept "his girls" obedient by having parties any time one them quit/got fired. They came to fear it.
People are asking Paul Joseph Watson to acknowledge the Andrew Tate situation. (I don't think he will, ever.) The history of the two had Paul claiming he wasn't even friends with Tate, at first, but eventually he hooked up with him (across Tate's various Twitter accounts).
"Tristan Tate teaches his paying supporters how to sleep with virgins. Tristan lives with his brother Andrew Tate in Romania. Romania's age of consent is 15 years old. Which makes this video even more creepy. Keep your daughters away from this man." -- via https://twitter.com/UltraChad9000/
"It seems #AndrewTate business model is pretending to be women online and swindling lonely men out of money." -- via https://twitter.com/UltraChad9000/
"Over 50% of my employees were actually my girlfriend at the time and, of all my girlfriends, NONE were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me," Tate's website said. How is that a selling point?
Emphasis on “MY JOB”.
Andrew Tate directly says the women who stay at his house in Romania aren't allowed to leave. That's called being held captive. "I have all these chicks that are in love with me and they aren't allowed to go out and socialize."
Andrew Tate war room user review indicates it's a shitty business too, besides the whole sexual slavery aspect of it.
Back when Andrew Tate was on Twitter he freaked out at people. This was something seemingly minor in my original thread, but it’s worth pointing out even now given that there’s a persistent pattern of public image obsession that comes through their social media habits.
Elsewhere: somebody tell Alex Jones to keep Andrew Tate the fuck away from his show lol. (Note: far too late for that. In fact, Jones has publicly defended Tate after Romanian authorities sent the brothers to prison amid their investigation.)
Tristan and Andrew Tate released footage of their complex to Romanian media to prove they DON'T kidnap girls... however the geniuses also showed they have a SECURITY GATE and ARMED GUARDS controlling the situation.
^^ This Tate security guard guy is to keep ladies from going OUT of the area.
Twitter staff VERIFIED Tate on accident, forced to admit they fucked up. Andrew Tate's Twitter account is gone but you can still find the psychologically abusing women shit.
December 2020: Twitter thread where Andrew Tate admits that he manipulates women to be jealous of each other and fight for Tate's attention. He groomed them into becoming psychologically dependent on him.
May 2020: Two years before he'd be accused of sex trafficking, Andrew Tate implies CONSENT among the women in his cam business in Romania. With pictures, for fucks sake.
"I took my cam girls to the club in Romania when I first moved here. Me and 15 girls. The girls had fun. I spent the entire time looking for threats."
LIFE ADVICE according to Andrew Tate: multiple identities. “Get 5 passports. 5 drivers [licenses]. Then change your name in a few [countries] - so you have legit passports with new names. DONT BE LAZY. ITS ESSENTIAL.”
HOW ANDREW TATE divides up his money: -- HE gets $500,000 -- THE GIRLS who works for him? A COUPLE thousand each! GEE I wonder why the girls never leave him! (HINT ITS MONEY RELATED)
Fucking multiple women is one thing But a system of servitude where the women WORK for the Tate brothers under dubious circumstances? Fuck that shit.
"She’s 18, I’m 33 and I’m her first ever man. Does this upset you?" -- Andrew Tate, September 2020. Yes it's upsetting, given how you likely lured the girl in and probably added her to your "collection."
TO CLARIFY, Tate's "I want to fuck as many women as possible" philosophy is ONE thing (see here) But ROPING women into this "lifestyle" seemingly indefinitely without a chance to leave? That crosses a line.
(Random background tweets from Tate's yeeted Twitter account that don't fit anywhere else and are otherwise miscellaneous)
Andrew "Thai girls are £20 each" Tate made "not sure if serious" posts about Islam, b/c he liked how they treat women. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).
(NOTE: After my April 2022 thread was made, Andrew made a full-blown conversion to Islam later in the year).
Andrew Tate talks about his upbringing. I shit you not, the fighting between his father and mother created the basis of his worldviews about men and women. psychology 101, yada yada.
Some shit about his dad taking him to get a haircut --> decides to go bald forever = Andrew Tate never stopped giving a shit about the haircut story. Anyone who tells this kind of story? Still gives a damn about it. no matter how much they claim otherwise.
Tate had a hard cope with COVID. (It was clear to me at the time of my initial thread, and became increasing prevalent the more I came to know about the brothers. The 2020 pandemic represented an attempt to try and both accelerate their business enterprises with the casino projects + pivot away from camgirls. What ended up happening was that COVID put the casinos on hold for just long enough so that Andrew stuck to the camgirl racket as a source of income). (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9).
Tate did some threads where he showed you he fucks women and drives cars. It's not just a lockdown cope. Andrew Tate has this weird desire to brag, like it means nothing, to keep any shit to himself.
Like, who the fuck is he even talking to in this thread? Nobody but himself. I think Andrew Tate's thing was building this fantasy life for himself and basically forcing other people to read it whether they wanted to or not.
Dude can't even buy cigars without making it some "LOOK AT ME EVERYONE IMMA HERO" tale.
June 2021: Andrew Tate + Scott Adams argue about masks. Six months later, Andrew Tate said that conversation inspired him to try and get Scott Adams wife to cheat on him. Sane dude!
^ No. There's no other context. It's all really weird but it goes to Andrew Tate gets high off his own supply, and shows you what kind of dude he is? At the very least.
April 2021's "Miami War Room" event thread as advertised by Andrew Tate. Get rich quick schemes and all that.
August 2019. Another instance of Cernovich being involved in Tate's shit. (For further context this was roughly around the time where the Romania war room meet-up event was happening.)
I just think there's a middle ground between "cringe male turbofeminist" and Andrew "I must stick my dick into everything" Tate. (1, 2, 3, 4).
"I have over 50 women in my phone I could fuck TODAY." Ok? Andrew Tate was serious when he tweeted "I’ve fucked over 400 men’s future wives."
Serious in that he actually believes that he did. (People nowadays question whether or not that really happened. But evidence I’ve seen from war room chat logs makes me lean towards yes.)
Andrew Tate tells a story about how he came across a 19-year-old female hustler who lured men into: 1.) buying her champagne 2.) in exchange for her number 3.) It was a scam. The female con artist gets a % commission from the club men buy it from.
An important point to understand about Andrew Tate is how he speaks like a big ol' dramatic storyteller. (It’s an intentional choice by him that plays back into the linguistic programming scheme that the Tate brothers deploy throughout all of their business practices).
August 2019, @TellYourSonThis claims Andrew Tate admitted to "trapping a girl in Romania by stealing her passport," and forced her to webcam (work) for him. SOUNDS PRETTY HUMAN TRAFFICKY TO ME.
I spoke with @TellYourSonThis about his encounter with Andrew Tate from years ago."He kept going on about how he was a pimp. How they would bring girls to Romania and then steal their passports so they can’t leave the country."
FURTHERMORE, Tate says "My girls will generate over 200,000 dollars this month I’ll pay them a little. (10k/15k) And keep the rest."
Boiled down: $$ ---> control over the women --> servitude, and that is just with the camgirl business. In terms of the bigger picture, Andrew claims that he and his brother have "11 different income streams."
With that said? Andrew Tate confessed to having upwards of 14 casinos. Which I bet are all perfectly above board and don't facilitate money laundering for the Romanian mafia whatsoever. :^) NOPE! Perfectly clean! (Sarcasm.) (Note: months later I’d find evidence that Andrew Tate coordinated with the mafia in order to set up his casino business within the country.)
BUT. Ol' Andy Tate has a brother. Tristan. His partner in crime, there on scene at their business in Romania. "People say Romania is corrupt. I like the corruption," -- Tristan Tate says. "It's a game everybody can play, we all participate."
It's ironic that Tristan "freed" some escort from Dubai, given the current accusations against him and his brother about holding people against their will. Obviously this must all be a simple misunderstanding. I mean look! He's so helpful!
The so-called pitch that in my opinion can be boiled down to: "REMINDER: You are NOT a man unless you build a camgirl empire! Thankfully I can help you for a small fee" is not sustainable.
Anyway, like I did with Andrew Tate's Twitter here's the miscellaneous shit that was archived on Tristan's. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).
Much like Andrew Tate, his brother Tristan sees girls as objects he can stick his cock into. (Tristan tries to emulate Andrew? But he feels more like the knock-off version, in my opinion.) (Note: the only difference I can think of between Andrew and Tristan Tate is that one likes cigars, the other likes alcohol.)
I don't even need to quote Tristan Tate here, just read the shit. People don't normally talk like this at all. (This is something that would remain consistent throughout the entirety of my investigation into the Tate brothers through until present day).
Iggy Semmelweis is basically a henchman of the Tate brothers. But he serves a purpose of showing that the things said above in the thread are NOT just an "internet personality" façade. These people actually believe what they're saying. Iggy is a witness to that.
Tweets from Iggy Semmelweis establish that it was largely Mike Cernovich involved from the US politics side of things and making introductions on Tate's behalf. I have no reason to believe that anyone other than Cernovich stayed "involved" w/ Andrew. Others just met the guy.
^ (Again this is as far as the US side of thing goes)This is established through Iggy's tweets. Cernovich was involved in the war room. He had business interests staying in touch with the Tate brothers. Simple as that. The same depth of connection can't be shown for others.
What Andrew Tate's lackey Iggy Semmelweis further solidifies is the fact that the Tate brothers "empire" is selling webcam shows using women to bait men in.It's unclear why women stay. Likely out of necessity, if the Tates get an OVERWHELMING out of the money.
Other tweets from Iggy Semmelweis further establish that the Tate "ideology" as seeing women as "assets" who work for men, and nothing more.
And with that, that was the end of my initial thread on the Tate brothers that started in April 2022. In retrospect I turned out to be right on the money with a lot of things. The only thing I think needs to be clarified now is that Andrew Tate was really an outsider to politics who latched onto the scene for personal exploitative reasons.